[0:00] ..." Let's get to lay on another story out of Cooperstown today that's Mark McGwire. Last year McGwire on as far as percentage of votes got 23 point six and you see the numbers below may 21 point nine it actually went down. Peter Gammons is one of our eleven on espn.com it has a vote for McGwire. I can tell you that I'll be eleven from espn.com. We had 245 vote form Peter did not vote form. Peter received"...

[0:56] ..." ever realize and we also have to look at the fact that McGwire had. Travis first four years and they usually he had actually astronomical home run totals before he started to get bigger and but I think for the time being I think people are still Larry and I it was still trying to get perspective of that era. McGwire great player and a great person a great teammate absolutely all be about."...

[1:19] ..." What do you think Joe being in the -- fan about Mark McGwire would you prefer me to join you there would you for him not to be --"...

[1:25] ..." Well so am -- I look I look at Mark McGwire and I have to tell you I'm surprised that it did go down on the I thought that he was going to get punished more a couple of years. And then I thought guys would look forward to say well this guy did do a lot of served great service for baseball he did this he did that and like Peter says they're a lot of guys. Who -- Going to we're going to have guys to sneak in because they weren't. You know -- commission or even identified. And yet you know you've had taken punish some of the guys who may have done something. And may not have -- not sure about McGwire. I I'd just say I'm surprised I really am that it that it went down. I really believe the Mark McGwire is going to get -- like Peter -- may be to be longer but I I'm a little surprised because you have to remember. He cal Ripken junior so so they all brought this game back when we were down. And and there -- a lot of the guys are doing the same thing but they weren't hitting 67 home runs if McGwire is guilty and no one has proven guilty yet no one's proven Sosa deal to no one's proven some of these guys to be guilty. So -- part of bird -- mean. To pass judgment on him you know personally it does seem like people are are more people are finding him guilty of that percentage of the vote goes down. Right exactly and what did they find out in the last few you can you know few years or whatever I don't they haven't proven anything against McGwire Sosa some of these other guys. I think it's just a very difficult. Thing is Peter says -- wonder come groups to. But"...